Are you guys saying they want to be attacked? If not, how is that not a common interest? our national disagreemants are on the approach, and the unilateralism. Our approach may be the right one, but it will not be successful in the environment of unilateralism. Otherwise, I do not disagree with what you both are saying about france.

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Are you guys saying they want to be attacked? If not, how is that not a common interest? our national disagreemants are on the approach, and the unilateralism. Our approach may be the right one, but it will not be successful in the environment of unilateralism. Otherwise, I do not disagree with what you both are saying about france.

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No, I am not saying that France wants to be attacked, I am just saying that France opposed the war in Iraq because it's interests are not the same as the United States. France didn't merely try to disagree with the US but worked very hard and actively to undermine the US at the UN by trying to get other nations not to help the US in the invasion of Iraq. Such examples as trying to sideline Poland and other East European countries and intense lobbying by the French to try to keep other nations from helping the US. I am not sure what French interests are but I have a hunch that the French opposing the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with a fear of sparking more terrorism. They know full well what kind of man Saddam is. Both the US and France supported Saddam btw... the US supported Saddam to prevent an Iranian victory in the Iran-Iraq which would allow Iran, which is hostile to Israel to emerge as a major power in the Middle East. I am not exactly sure why France supported Saddam, but France does have a history of colonialism which the US opposed vehmently after World War II. There can be no security anywhere in the free world if there is no economic stability within the United States. Those who ask us to trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state are architects of a policy of accommodation. -Reagan

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Originally posted by Egor: Are you guys saying they want to be attacked? If not, how is that not a common interest? our national disagreemants are on the approach, and the unilateralism. Our approach may be the right one, but it will not be successful in the environment of unilateralism. Otherwise, I do not disagree with what you both are saying about france.

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NO, they don't won't to be attacked, but because of growing muslim population inside France they want to appease them, show them support against Israel, against USA. Yes, interest is common, ways to achieve it are different and can't be united. The natives are restless. Падонки. Capt. James Cook, Sat. Feb. 13th 1779, aboard HMS Discovery.

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- Независимость - это когда в 20-й раз наступаешь на одни и те же грабли, а русские уже ни при чем....

reading just the article itself (and not the discussion afterwards) - I think the whole thing is just silly to say the least. So what, now they are going to be taking hostages for ANYTHING that they disagree with? Today it was that ban on religiouse attributes (and per article, all the religions were affected), tomorrow it will be something else more stupid like the color of the houses or soemthing! It sounds like either they are plain dumb or simply are looking for any reason to take somebody hostage and make some demands and just force random nations to bow to them and surrender. Just like any bullie (sp?) - beat somebody up to prove yourself that you are strong and brave, while in fact just the opposite is true - insecure and gutless! As for the law itself - I don't think it is a very wise law anyway. As for the "appeasement" and this whole discussion, I also feel that French has a growing muslim population that grows in power and makes a huge difference in a lot of internal as well as external policies. The only question that could be argued here is whether French-Islamic population will take a stand and oppose the Islamic Terrorists, or on contrary will support them instead. That will probably determine the course of actions that France will take.

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Журналистов передали посредникам, какой-то суннитской организации. Они на пути в аэропорт.

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