Dasha:

never ever? wow. well, as I said, I could go through the old posts and find something . . .

http://www.uscompass.com/forums/post/183500.aspx

there's a HUGE industry of middle men who are getting obnoxious amounts of money in a process of finding and delivering the organs.  Philanthropy is driving force behind this on the outside, but underneath it's just a business.

http://www.uscompass.com/forums/post/184120.aspx 

American mentailty towards Russia will never change.

http://www.uscompass.com/forums/post/184172.aspx 

The US ... is threatening everyone except their allies.

http://www.uscompass.com/forums/thread/185038.aspx 

Какова страна - таков и народ.

http://www.uscompass.com/forums/post/185182.aspx 

Chechens did this with mentally capable people as well, the bombs had two triggers, one local, one remote.  So, is it really about culture, or is it just about some groups of really fucked up people?

http://www.uscompass.com/forums/post/185860.aspx 

bunch of gangster decide that it is much more convenient if they can rule the area without intervention from the government.

And finally, to explain why I find this a complete and utter waste of my time and will not argue with you about whether those direct quotes or many other things that you've said actually constitute generalizations, here are your own words: 

Even if I will start listing them you will not get it, because your mind is made up, and that is something I can do nothing about.

Set your timers, bring out the dares, get the whole playground riled up if you want. The simple fact remains that you had nothing better to do than get defensive about a simple remark. I have a life and can't check this forum daily/hourly to see whether, oh my god,  I missed one of 412's deadlines for replying quickly enough.

Jeeez.  

Dasha:

American mentailty towards Russia will never change.

412:

Dasha:

American mentailty towards Russia will never change.

I'll agree witht this one, my fault. In a thousand years maybe. As of the rest, what did I say that may be considered a generalization?

not even in a thousand years.... not unless US invades .....  

First, I think sometimes, using a generalization is a perfectly acceptable part of language.  Precisely because some generalizations are generally true.  Please note  the word generally.  NOTHING about human behavior is always true or never true.  (A Generalization?)   I see no harm in using generalizations as long as the generalization is predicated on the understanding that the person using it means "in general".  Since, in my culture, people use generalizations as a routine form of speech, it is always understood without saying that a person means "usually" or "almost always".

Secondly,  I think Egor makes a great point when he asks the question about the liklihood of a reverse of my experience being true.   I agree with him that one could find exceptions to my story, and maybe the american woman would emerge superior to that of a foreign wife, thereby rescuing the russian man from the evil clutches of his terrible russian wife.  Anyone have a story?  Would love to hear it.

I also don't understand the natural animosity that Egor has for a woman who has left her culture to find love elsewhere.  If you, Egor, in fact are only talking about a woman who would trade her natural culture and family only for the chance to marry for money in America, I would agree with you.  However, my wife has told me of the huge difficulties of finding a quality husband in Ukraine, even a decent one. Perhaps, heavy drinking and built in, cultural promiscuity have taken their toll of the perceptions women in that area have of their own men,(another generalization ) contributing to their desire to seek men from other countries as a mate.  Certainly, the possibility of her story and perceptions being unique exist.  But if this were true, why do so many women take this action? (seeking mates in other countries)   Therefore, I find an animosity of women who seek love from other men, in this case, American men, a mystery.   Animosity why?   Jealousy?   A sense of betrayal?  A scorn?   Just wondering if we may entice a few of you to elaborate a little.

Using a generalization to declare a certain group of individuals superior to another group is WRONG. I have read your portrayal of your ex-wife and can't even begin to tell you how disgusted I am.
What's wrong with taking Prozac? What's wrong with taking half your assets? You were married to her for 24 years! What did you expect? Her walking away with nothing? So, she cheated on you. I am very sorry. But maybe instead of blaming her entirely you should take a look at yourself. Were you perfect ALL the time? She didn't want to please you? What on earth do you mean by that? I don't want to please anyone, and hey, I am Russian. I want to be treated with respect and will treat with respect, however, if I am not respected, the reciprocity should not be expected. It sounds like you married you wife to save money and be pleased. Don't get me wrong, I am sure you love her dearly, just as you say you do, but for what reasons?

It is also at the very least illogical to presume that eastern european women search for husbands in America because men in their countries are promiscuous drunks. Think about it from the perspective of Logical Analysis 101. Russian/Ukranian men are bad. Russian/Ukranian women are good. Good women raise good children. A good R/U woman raises a good daughter. A good R/U women should therefore raise as good a son. But wait, you are saying that there is this cultural promiscuity and drinking. How is it then possible for a country to produce such wholesome women and such horrible irresponsible men? Did it ever occur to you that there are lots of worthless women in R/U who abuse and neglect their children and many decent men?

Why do R/U women then marry out of the country/culture? They don't want to pull the wagon, for the most part. R/U experience a bad job market, bad economy, high prices, etc... Men don't always have work in smaller towns or rural regions. This is why women prefer to leave by means of marrying. Men can't do it because in many cases they don't have marketable skills. No woman in any country will marry a man without any marketable skills needed to bring in a decent income to support a family.

So, go on live your dream. And maybe your life is dreamy. In that case, you hit the jackpot with your wife. Just do not assume all eastern european wives are that wonderful. Don't get me wrong. Many are. But I just heard many times things like "I am leaving this old goat as soon as i get my green card".

I am sure there are many great american women, just as there are many great russian women. Just like with men.

If one part of married couple has cheated, she has to get NOTHING !!

Also, if just one party in marriage makes all the money and brings most of the stuff into that marriage, that party has to get most of the stuff when marriage is gone.

 This whole 50-50 crap is just crap. A way for lawyers to make money...
 

KGBMan:

If one part of married couple has cheated, she has to get NOTHING !!

Also, if just one party in marriage makes all the money and brings most of the stuff into that marriage, that party has to get most of the stuff when marriage is gone.

 This whole 50-50 crap is just crap. A way for lawyers to make money...
 

50-50 is a fair deal, esspecially, after 20+ years of marriage and 2 kids. The woman had to be on prozac for something. You don't get depressed for the hell of it. We heard just one side of the story, I would love to hear the other. As far as cheating...well, it is terrible, awful, etc, but it happens sometimes and for many different reasons - we are all human and make mistakes. What if the other side is cheating too or cheated in the past but never got caught? If 50-50 was a law, it would have been all much simpler - No lawyers needed.

If you want to keep you money (if you have it of course) - don't get married

Mkgilstrap, if you don't mind, some questions for you:

what is the age difference between you and your second wife, for how long have you been married so far and does she have her citizenship yet?

Really? Marriage is a 50/50. No matter how much money a husband brings in. If you want a marriage that's a 70/30, 80/20, or a 90/10, then you should hire a maid, a cook, a surrogate to carry your offspring and a nanny and then pay them the 30, 20, 10 or whatever fraction you feel is right. In the end you'll find that you'll have paid them more than half of what you are making. So marriage may not be such a bad thing after all, if achieving the above listed goals is what you are after.