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Last post 07-25-2006, 7:23 PM by Orkster. 33 replies.
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  •  07-26-2006, 6:54 PM 96611 in reply to 12401

    ТАК!

    Ok, I like where you are going with this. An interesting direction, so here is my take on it...
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    Originally posted by Orkster: Mentality, destiny, failure of western strategy… Ukrainians bought a freezer, it doesn’t work and people like Anton are saying it’s because the electricity flows differently in Ukraine then in the rest of the world…
    well, to be brutally honest, electricity in Ukraine does flow differently from that of the US, so the fridge will not and does not work, but let's move beyond the proverbial fridge.
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    What is a revolution? A fundamental change in society comparable to Russia 1917, France 1795, British Colonies 1775. It’s not what happened in Ukraine even though people call it revolution. Revolutions are not done by hanging flags and wearing scarves, it’s done by hanging people and wearing ammo belts. What happened in Ukraine was a soft revolution, a change of elites in power, the kind of revolution that happens here every time parties in power switch.
    what does it matter what we call it? what matters most is the results - changing one imbecile for another does not produce any change...
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    What did you expect Anton? That the Dnieper will change its course and flow with liquid justice instead of water? That pineapples and peaches will grow on trees and government offices will overflow with prosperity and fairness?
    I personally expected exactly what happened - absolutely nothing. All talk about "change" was just that - talk.
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    Russia is screwed big time. By not allowing soft revolutions at regular intervals it is setting itself for a hard one, when heads will roll like in the good old days. Jedem Das Seine.
    This is where I think you are wrong. Those types of "Revolutionary" convulsions are for those countries that have problems, Russia being one of them. Tell me the last time Norway had a "soft" or "hard" revolution. Are they "overdue" now for "heads to roll"? Revolutions are unnecessary. In most developed countries there are no "cycles" of revolutionary convulsions you are describing. When you see them, they are a sign of illness. In the case of Ukraine, it showed once again that the idea of "democracy" is very relative. American ideas of democracy will not work in Ukraine or Iraq. Norwegian ideas of democracy will not work in Haiti, and a VCR tape from Bangladesh will not play on Canadian TV.

    советская империя утратила свой стиль раньше, чем потеряла свою власть
  •  07-26-2006, 9:24 PM 96623 in reply to 12401

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    Principles of electricty and sociology are the same everywhere. Changing once imbecile to another does a lot. It shows that imbeciles can be changed. Unlike in Russia where noone was fired for Beslan or theater in Moscow, or two planes falling from the sky, or poor guy whose balls had to be removed... a thing like that happens in Ukraine and live and agile opposition will pressure the imbeciles in power to react to these things in ways other then blaming the West. Norway had a soft revolution last year when coalition between the Labour Party, Socialist Left Party, and Centre Party, took over government from 17 October 2005 after the 2005 general election, where this so-called red-green alternative received a majority of 87 out of 169 seats in the Storting. Jedem Das Seine.
    Jedem Das Seine.
  •  07-27-2006, 2:45 AM 96639 in reply to 12401

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    yep ukranians don;t wait for planes to fall, they shoot them down and they don;t wait for terrorists to blow houses up, they use their own rockets for that....
    - Независимость - это когда в 20-й раз наступаешь на одни и те же грабли, а русские уже ни при чем....
  •  07-28-2006, 1:18 PM 96718 in reply to 12401

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    Yes. Only after those rockets the minister of defence offered resignation and after the houses blew up they were fixed and people promptly resettled. No such luck in Russia... Jedem Das Seine.
    Jedem Das Seine.
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