Alla:

Pom, right on. I like the last sentence: "any woman can be turned into a world class whore."  Actually Balzac said something very similar many years ago. But it takes a special kind of man to get out of his wife what he can get out of a hooker.  A man who can do that is a genius.  but I like the way you think.

Balzac said, "A lover teaches a wife all her husband has kept from her." He also said, "A woman must be a genius to create a good husband."
 

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"Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato

>> The man was able to realize his deepest, darkest, most intimate fantasies

i doubt that. there is no such thing as the darkest fantasy. no matter how you turn that woman around, bend her, position her, make her do whatever things - it all comes down to a simple motion with friction and, then, release.

i mean, what can you do with a woman that's so "dark"? can you give me an example? some people pee on each other, others poop on each other, or even eat each other's ***. would that qualify as "dark"? it's all been done before, over and over again. Not a big deal. Not worth $15,000.

the only darkest fantasy i see in Spitzer's case is doing it with a younger chick behind everybody's back.

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I also think he didn't have many options.  Cheap street hookers are usually too ugly for his caliber and money, and carry STDs. Having an affair is bad in terms of confidentiality, plus its high maintenance, can be prone to blackmail and other fun stuff.  And don;t forget, you have to call her the next day

This way, he felt his risk was low, confidentiality was high, women are "clean" and higher caliber.  These services are only successful for these reasons.  It doesn't have to be about some kind of "darkest fantasies".  The only fantasy is probably hot casual sex with a woman less frigid than your wife.

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"Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский

(sigh)

I think I"m falling for Sappho. 

Sappho, your intellect and insight are growing in power.  Before, I was just curiously aroused by you.  But now. with these posts, I need you.

 

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"Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable."

Right, he thought that have sex with a call girl is much safer – he just forgot how many enemies he had, and strangely - that prostitution is still illegal…

I do not think he started this ‘business’ on his own – somebody  ‘helped’ him to think that this kind of relationship is the only choice he had, and it is so-o-o safe, unless he was doing that long before he became NY governor.

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I bet he was more turned on by the fear of being caught :)

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Sweater, n.: garment worn by child when her mother is feeling chilly. ~Ambrose Bierce

pomidorchik:

>> The man was able to realize his deepest, darkest, most intimate fantasies

i doubt that. there is no such thing as the darkest fantasy. no matter how you turn that woman around, bend her, position her, make her do whatever things - it all comes down to a simple motion with friction and, then, release.

i mean, what can you do with a woman that's so "dark"? can you give me an example? some people pee on each other, others poop on each other, or even eat each other's ***. would that qualify as "dark"? it's all been done before, over and over again. Not a big deal. Not worth $15,000.

the only darkest fantasy i see in Spitzer's case is doing it with a younger chick behind everybody's back.

As I can see, the adjective "dark" is the only thing that you remembered from my post. What happened to turning any woman into a high class prostitute? Biting your tongue yet?

I do not know Spitzer, not as a friend, not as an acquaintenance, not as a coworker, and not as a "servicee" , thus, I do not know anything about his fantasies. I simply pointed out to you, the loud mouth, that having sex is not just about some female's body. It can be and is about so many things to so many people.

Furthermore, the examples you mentioned sound  to me like dirty fantasies. Dark fantasies involve risk, pain, blood, near-death experiences, death ... like fantasizing about raping a woman while slowly suffocating her. That's dark. There were cases of people accidently dying while masturbating with a rope around their necks. Another example, having sex with a man while holding a knife close to his neck, and some go as far as cutting his/her partner with the blade. I can go on with examples, but why should I? Pomidorichik will argue to death that it is still not worth to pay someone $15,000.00 for these services. Very well then, it is not worth for you to pay for such services, but when did you become a speaker for everyone? Paying any money to a prostitute is not worth it for you, then don't pay! Simple, isn't it?

And last but not least, another cliche coming from you "it's all been done, over and over again." By you? If not, then how do you know? What have you done? What can you say for yourself? Have you turned any woman into a high class prostitute? Have you taught any woman how to be a better lover, a better woman, a better person? Do share, it's much more interesting to hear some examples and experiences than the empty slogans that you keep feeding others with.

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"Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato

Egor:

This way, he felt his risk was low, confidentiality was high, women are "clean" and higher caliber.  These services are only successful for these reasons.  It doesn't have to be about some kind of "darkest fantasies".  The only fantasy is probably hot casual sex with a woman less frigid than your wife.

For him and various celebrities the reasons you mentioned may be good ones to pay big bucks for prostitutes. However, you sound like Pomidorichik when you say that "these services are ONLY successful for THESE reasons." Absolutely, it does not have to be about some kind of darkest fantasies, but it is for some people. How many people do you think would openly talk about those? I think, not very many. Additionally, "darkest fantasies" were not the only ones I mentioned, deepest and most intimate fantasies do not have to be dark at all. And people go to prostitutes to experience them. There is a weird "home for babies," in which adults are treated like babies and they get off from wearing pampers, from pooping and peeing in their pampers, from other people cleaning them up, etc., etc., etc. Those are fantasies, and people pay money to experience them. Dark? I wouldn't say so. Intimate? Yes.

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"Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato

Bagel Roll:

I bet he was more turned on by the fear of being caught :)

A definite possibility, but we'll never know and he'll never tell.  

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"Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato

Here is what I found on google when I typed in "dark sexual fantasies." People say that they have them, that they fantasize, however, note that nobody actually describes them. Even online people do not let others inside of their heads, it's too private, too intimate, and maybe too dark.

http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/answers2/frontend.php/question?qid=20080205233037AALz3ZU

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"Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato

James Bond:

(sigh)

I think I"m falling for Sappho. 

Sappho, your intellect and insight are growing in power.  Before, I was just curiously aroused by you.  But now. with these posts, I need you.

You don't, but thank you for your flattering words "v moy adres!"

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"Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato

sappo, i'm lazy to search for examples. just google some more and see what's been done.

 

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pomidorchik:

sappo, i'm lazy to search for examples. just google some more and see what's been done.

Laziness may have something to do with you not knowing what the hell you are talking about, I wouldn't know. However, I asked for your personal examples, if you have any, to put some weight into your words. Otherwise, they sound empty.

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"Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato