Are American Jews the equivalent of chickens voting for Shabbat?
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Are American Jews the equivalent of chickens voting for Shabbat?
IsraelInsider
By Melanie Phillips June 4,
2008
 Are American Jews the equivalent of
chickens voting for Shabbat?
They have persuaded themselves that Barack
Obama is a friend of the Jewish people, because Obama put his hand on his heart
and swore undying friendship to the state of Israel.
The fact that for
20 years he belonged to a "black power" church whose pastor -- and his own
personal spiritual mentor -- was an acolyte of the Jew-hating demagogue Louis
Farrakhan, and who also supported Hamas as a resistance movement, is a detail
that need not trouble the Jews of Los Angeles, Boca Raton or the Upper West
Side.
The fact that Obama has said "Nobody is suffering more than the
Palestinian people" needn't detain them.
The fact that he says he would
talk to the genocidal fanatics of Iran without preconditions (along with the
dictators of North Korea, Syria, Cuba and Venezuela) needn't bother them at all.
Because for them, there's only one thing that matters about Obama. He's
not a Republican!
For the overwhelmingly Democrat-supporting American
Jews, voting for a Republican is as unthinkable as eating a ham sandwich on Yom
Kippur. Indeed, a number of them would rather eat a ham sandwich on Yom Kippur,
because their conviction that religion is bunk and has nothing to do with being
Jewish comes second only to their conviction that Republicans are the acme of
evil.
That is because they think that to be Jewish is to be liberal in
outlook. Therefore to be a Jew is to be a Democrat. End of story. Unlike their
British counterparts, American Jews haven't become more conservative as their
prosperity has increased over the generations. (This is not true of the growing
minority of mainly younger American Jews, who are markedly more Orthodox and
thus, since they are rather more in tune with authentic Jewish ethics such as
truth, justice and the difference between right and wrong, are indeed voting
Republican; but let that pass.)
Being Jewish, think liberal American
Jews, means showing that you are not prejudiced against minorities. That means
adopting the core presumption of "victim culture" that minorities are never at
fault. That means in turn that if an ethnic or religious minority is prejudiced
against you, you can't criticise it because to do so means you are prejudiced.
True, the fact that Obama belongs to a kooky church makes them uneasy.
The fact that he associates with various mafia types and nut-jobs makes them
twitch a bit. The fact that he would go cap in hand to Iran and Syria makes at
least some of them suck their teeth.
But they know that he must be their
friend because he is a Democrat and he is black. They know that he cannot be
their enemy because they know that President Bush is their enemy.
The
fact that Bush is arguably the greatest friend the Jewish people has ever had in
the White House cannot possibly be true because Bush is a Republican and
therefore can do no right.
Conversely, Obama can do no wrong. So
American Jews ignore the fact that all Obama's foreign-policy advisers are
veteran Israel-haters. They ignore his long-standing friendship with Columbia
professor Rashid Khalidi.
Khalidi has written that Israel has carried
out the "ethnic cleansing" of Palestinians; that Israel should be replaced by a
bi-national, cantonal system for Jews and Arabs; and that suicide bombings are a
response to "Israeli aggression". Obama has said he merely had "conversations"
with Khalidi. But reports say the Khalidi and Obama families are long-standing
friends. In 2000, Khalidi raised funds for Obama's failed bid for a seat in the
US House of Representatives. And according to the Los Angeles Times, Obama said
his talks with the Khalidis served as "consistent reminders to me of my own
blind spots and my own biases? a conversation that is necessary not just around
Mona and Rashid's dinner table", but around "this entire world".
No
matter. All of this is simply erased from the gaze of America's Jews in their
own collective blind spot. As a result, as pro-Palestinian blogger Ali Abunimah
let slip at The Electronic Intifada, Obama is playing them for suckers. Abunimah
wrote that during his campaign for the US Senate, Obama told him: "Hey, I'm
sorry I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough
primary race. I'm hoping when things calm down I can be more upfront." He
referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the Chicago
Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy, 'Keep up the good work!'"
So if, as is expected, Obama wins the Democratic presidential
nomination, American Jews will vote for him and maintain the purity of theirs
souls.
Cluck cluck!
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pomidorchik
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Re: Are American Jews the equivalent of chickens voting for Shabbat?
>>> The fact that for 20 years he belonged to not a big deal... people change, views change.. 20 years ago, ppl from this forum were building communism:-)
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Re: Are American Jews the equivalent of chickens voting for Shabbat?
 pomidorchik:
>>> The fact that for 20 years he belonged to
not a big deal... people change, views change..
20 years ago, ppl from this forum were building communism:-)
Actually, 20 years ago people from this forum started the collapse of the system. But 25 years ago, yes, they were still building it.
Amazing, how much difference 5 years can make.
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Re: Are American Jews the equivalent of chickens voting for Shabbat?
Who started the collapse? Just because we are on this forum, we started a collapse? KGBman probably tried to stop perestroika 
Would you trust anyone from this forum to confront Russia?
________________________________________ "Я это понимаю на рациональном уровне, но не могу принять на эмоциональном" --Бизнесмен Борис Березовский
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Re: Are American Jews the equivalent of chickens voting for Shabbat?
Egor:
Who started the collapse? Just because we are on this forum, we started a collapse? KGBman probably tried to stop perestroika
Would you trust anyone from this forum to confront Russia?
Yeah, I think I saw KGBMan on the other side of the barricades. The times of confrontation with Russia are over though. 
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Re: Are American Jews the equivalent of chickens voting for Shabbat?
collapse was started by inability of soviet elite to change and bring new blood. Nothing else mattered. If I would face same choices today - I'd be killing freaking liberal intelligence indiscriminately. They are worst than rats and always in abundance...
- Независимость - это когда в 20-й раз наступаешь на одни и те же грабли, а русские уже ни при чем....
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Re: Are American Jews the equivalent of chickens voting for Shabbat?
“As we begin to 'peel the onion' regarding
Barack Obama and separate his evangelical rhetoric from his decidedly liberal
agenda and his conscious associations with those of less than pristine
character, his latest campaign announcement should be tremendously troubling to
Jews and Christians alike who support Israel.
The Obama Campaign just released today that he has chosen former Rep. David
Bonior as his campaign emissary to the DNC meeting tomorrow in Washington, DC.
Unlike Obama who has a
very skimpy record on Israel,
Bonior has a documented 19-year record as being Anti-Israel.
Is this how Mr. Obama is reaching out to Jews and Christians for their support?
As noted in the last paragraph below, ' It's no wonder the Jewish community
remains deeply skeptical and troubled by Barack Obama.' HERE IT IS:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Contact: Suzanne Kurtz - Office: 202-638-6688;
202-368-6465 (cell) - E-mail: skurtz@rjchq.org
Bonior Joins Obama Team as Latest Anti-Israel Campaign Official Washington,
D.C. (May 30, 2008) -
The Republican Jewish Coalition today responded to the announcement that former
Rep. David Bonior will be representing the Obama campaign at the Democratic
National Committee meeting this weekend in Washington, D.C. As a Congressman,
David Bonior was known for his strong opposition to pro-Israel policies, being
called by some 'the biggest supporter of the anti-Israel
Arab lobby in Congress.'
[1] The RJC cited Bonior as the latest in a string of advisors and campaign officials to Barack Obama that
harbor anti-Israel views.
'Barack Obama's path to strengthening ties with the Jewish community is
severely blocked when appointing an anti-Israel figure like David Bonior. While
in Congress, Bonior refused to stand by Israel
after repeated terrorist attacks, was known as a stalwart opponent to Israel, and is
now a representative for Barack Obama.
Bonior's appointment is the latest in a series that raises serious questions
and doubts about Barack Obama's positions and judgments on the Middle East.'
During his Congressional career, David Bonior
repeatedly opposed pro-Israel legislation. In 1997, David Bonior was
one of 15 Congressmen who signed a letter asking then-President Clinton to pressure
Israelis into making concessions to the Palestinians.
In 2002, David Bonior was one of only 21 Congressmen who opposed H.R. 392,
which publicly affirmed Congress's support of Israel's right to self-defense
and called for the dismantling of the Palestinian terrorist infrastructure.[2]
In 1990, David Bonior was one of only 34 Congressman to vote against a measure naming Jerusalem as the united
capital of Israel.[3] In 1989, Bonior was one of six House members
to vote against a bill that prevented US funds from going to UN entities that
granted the PLO membership.[4] Throughout his career, Bonior repeatedly opposed US aid to Israel and supported
arms sales to Arab states opposed to Israel's existence.
'The appointment of yet another anti-Israel advisor like David Bonior to
represent Barack Obama speaks volumes to the Jewish community. The pattern
including Tony McPeak, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Robert Malley continues with
this appointment. It's no wonder the Jewish
community remains deeply skeptical and troubled by Barack Obama.'
[1] Jonathan Tobin, Jewish World Review, 7/12/99.
[2] H.R. 392, 'Expressing Solidarity with Israel in its Fight against
Terrorism', May 2002, 352-21 (29 voting present).
[3] H.R. 290, 'In support of a unified Jerusalem',
Apr. 1990, 378-34 (6 voting present).
[4] H.R. 2145, 'Prohibiting US Contributions to the United Nations Under
Certain Conditions', May 1989, 396-6 (11 voting present).
(May 30, 2008) - The Republican Jewish Coalition today responded to the
announcement that former Rep. David Bonior will be representing the Obama
campaign at the Democratic National Committee meeting this weekend in Washington, D.C.
As a Congressman, David Bonior was known for his strong opposition to
pro-Israel policies, being called by some 'the
biggest supporter of the anti-Israel Arab lobby in Congress.'[1] The
RJC cited Bonior as the latest in a string of advisors and campaign officials
to Barack Obama that harbor anti-Israel views.
'Barack Obama's path to strengthening ties with the Jewish community is
severely blocked when appointing an anti-Israel figure like David Bonior. While
in Congress, Bonior refused to stand by Israel after repeated terrorist attacks,
was known as a stalwart opponent to Israel, and is now a representative
for Barack Obama.
Bonior's appointment is the latest in a series that raises serious questions and doubts about Barack Obama's
positions and judgments on the Middle East.'
During his Congressional career, David Bonior repeatedly opposed pro-Israel
legislation. In 1997, David Bonior was one of 15 Congressmen who signed a
letter asking then-President Clinton
to pressure Israelis into making concessions to
the Palestinians.
In 2002, David Bonior was one of only 21 Congressmen who opposed H.R. 392,
which publicly affirmed Congress's support of Israel's right to self-defense and
called for the dismantling of the Palestinian terrorist infrastructure.
[2] In 1990, David Bonior was one of only 34 Congressman to vote against a measure naming Jerusalem as the united capital of Israel.[3]
In 1989, Bonior was one of six House members to vote against a bill that
prevented US funds from going to UN entities that granted the PLO membership.
[4] Throughout his career, Bonior repeatedly
opposed US aid to Israel and supported arms sales to Arab states
opposed to Israel's
existence. 'The appointment of yet another anti-Israel advisor like David
Bonior to represent Barack Obama speaks volumes to the Jewish community. The
pattern including Tony McPeak, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Robert Malley continues
with this appointment. It's no wonder the Jewish community remains deeply
skeptical and troubled by Barack Obama.'
[1] Jonathan Tobin, Jewish World Review, 7/12/99.
[2] H.R. 392, 'Expressing Solidarity with Israel in its Fight against
Terrorism', May 2002, 352-21 (29 voting present).
[3] H.R. 290, 'In support of a unified Jerusalem',
Apr. 1990, 378-34 (6 voting present).
[4] H.R. 2145, 'Prohibiting US Contributions to the United Nations Under
Certain Conditions', May 1989, 396-6 (11 voting present).
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